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Clarendon, Arkansas
Age 79
"I was born at Duncan, Arkansas. Mother died when I was a baby. Old slavery black 'Mammy' raised me. I called
her 'Mammy'. My father was born in the State of Mississippi. He got loose there at 'mancipation. His master Jack
Oates got killed in battle. They brung him home and buried him in the garden. Down close to Duncan on the place. I
played in the yard wid Mr. Jack Oates, Jr. when we was little fellars. Father's master in Tennessee was Bill Tyler.
My uncle went back to Tennessee to them. His name was Tyler Oates. Mr. Jack Oates, Sr. used to pat me and call
me his little nigger. We thought the world and all of our white folks. We sure did. Some of 'em 'round 'bout Helena
they say now. Mr. Jack, Jr., he had two boys and he was a widower.
"My own dear mother was Jane. My father called hisself Bill Tyler. My stepmother was Liddy. The woman what
raised me was 'Mammy' all I ever knowed. But her name was Luckadoo.
"Mr. Tyler got killed. Pa had to stay on take care of his mistress. He got sold. Then she died. Then mother died. Jack
Oates went to my father and brung him to Mississippi, then to Arkansas.
"Master Jack Tyler hid out. The Yankees come at night and caught him there and shot him. His wife lived about two
more years. She grieved about him. They took everything and searched the house. My pa was hid under the house.
They rumbled down in the cellar and pretty nigh seen him once.
He was a little bit er black fellar scroughed back in the dark. All what saved him he wore a black sorter coat. They
couldn't see him so good. Way he said they would took him to wait on them and be in the fights too. Them Yankees
took Massa Jack Tyler off and sont him back in a while. She had him buried in the garden. She didn't know it was
him.
"'Mammy' was a slavery woman. She was sold first time from a neighbor man to a neighbor man. He was an old
man. She ploughed and rolled logs. Then she was sold to Master Luckadoo close to Holly Grove. They named her
Eloise, and she was a farm woman. She was so good to me. She was a worker and never took time to tell me about
old times. She said Luckadoo never whooped her. A storm come and blowed a limb down killed her granddaughter
and broke my leg. The same storm killed their mule. She raised a orphan boy too. She died from the change of life
but she was old, gray headed. Since I'm older I think she had a tumor. 'Cause she was old when she took me on.
"I gets ten dollars from the Welfare. I ain't goiner say nothin' for 'em nor nothin' agin 'em. They's betwix' and
between no 'count and good.
"Times too fast. I can't keep up wid them. 'Betwix' and between the fat and the lean.' Some do very well I reckon."
Interviewer : Miss Irene Robertson"
