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Age 74 Brinkley, Ark.
"Mama was named Anna Noles. Papa named Milias Noles. She belong to the Whitakers and he belong to Gibbs.
Noles bought them both. They was both sold. Nother was born in Athens, papa somewhere in Kentucky. Their
owners, the Noles, come to Aberdeen, Mississippi.
"Grandma, papa's mama, was killed with a battling stick. She was a slender woman, very tall and pretty, papa told
me. She was at the spring, washing. They out a tree off and make a smooth stump. They used a big tree stump for
battling. They had paddles, wide as this (two hands wide - eight or ten inches) with rounded-off handle, smoothed
so slick. They wet and soap the clothes, put en on that block-tree stump and beat em. Rub boards was not heard of
in them days. They soaked the clothes, boiled and rinsed a heap. They done good washing. I heard em say the
clothes come white as snow from the lye soap they used. They made the soap. They had hard soap and soft soap,
made from ashes dripped and meat skins. They used tallow and mutton suet too. I don't know what was said, but I
recken she didn't please her mistress - Mrs. Callie Gibbs. She struck her in the small part of her back and broke it.
She left her at the spring. Somebody went to get water and seen her there. They took her to the house but she finally
died. Grandpa was dead then. I recken they got scared to keep papa round then and sold him.
"I was born first year of the surrender. Moster Noles told them they was free. They didn't give them a thing. They
was glad they was free. They didn't want to be in slavery; it was too tied down to suit em. They lived about places,
do little work where they found it.
"We dodged the Ku Klux. One night they was huntin' a man and come to the wrong house. They nearly broke
mama's arm pullin' her outen our house. They give us some trouble coming round. We was scared of em. We
dodged em all the time.
"I was married and had a child eight years old fore I come to Arkansas. I come to Brinkley first. I was writing to
friends. They had immigrated, so we immigrated here and been here ever since. When I come here there was two
big stores and a little one. A big sawmill - nothing but woods and wild animals. It wasn't no hard times then. We
had a plenty to live on.
"My husband was a saw mill hand and a railroad builder. He worked on the section. I nursed, washed, ironed,
cooked, cleaned folks houses. We done about right smart. I could do right smart now if white folks hire me.
"The night my husband died somebody stole nearly every chicken I had. He died last week. We found out it was
two colored men. I ain't needed no support till now. My husband made us a good living long as he was able to go.
We raised a family. He was a tolerably dark sort of man. My girls bout his color."
The two grown girls were "scouring" the floor. Both of them said they were married and lived somewhere else.
Interviewer Mary D. Hudgins"
