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1601 Georgia Street, Pine Bluff, Arkansas
Age 89
"Yes'm, I was here in Civil War days. I was bout twelve years old when Lincoln was elected. I remember when he
was elected. I was big enough to weave end knit for the soldiers. I remember when the war started. Yes ma'm --- oh
I remember so much. Saw all the soldiers and shook hands with em. Why I waited on the table when General Lee
stopped there for dinner on his way from Mobile to meet Sherman. That was in Winchester, Mississippi where I was
born. I worked in a hotel, yes ma'm. I was raised up in a hotel, called em taverns in those days. I was born right in
Winchester, Mississippi. Used to see the soldiers drill every day. If I could remember, I could tell you a heap of
things.
"My mistress' name was Mrs. Shaw. She took me away from my mother when I was four years old --- taken me for
her body servant. She learned me how to do housework and all kinds of sewin' --- cuttin' and makin'. I done all the
sewin' for her family.
"I never went to no school but Mrs. Shaw tried to teach me and she slapped my jaws many a day bout my book.
"I married when I was fifteen just fore the war ended and I forgot everything I ever learned --- yes ma'm! I been
married four times and they're all dead. I never married when any of em was livin' like a heap of colored folks did.
"The Yankees come within fifty miles of where we was livin' and then they burned the bridge and turned back.
White folks never told us what the war was for but a old Corman man used to read the paper at the table --- every
battle they'd fight and when the Yankees would whip. Oh them was times then. If I could remember I could tell you
a heap of things but my mind's gone from me.
"Old master had about a hundred head of hands and old mistress had a cousin had five hundred.
"White folks was good to me. My father was the carriage driver and old mistress used to carry me to church with
her every Sunday.
"I never seen no Ku Klux but I lived where they was, in Mississippi. That was a Ku Klux state. Yes ma'm.
"I remember when General Lee come to Winchester you could hear the horses' feet a mile away, it so cold.
"My great grandfather was a full blooded Indian. I've lived among the Indians in Mississippi and bought baskets
from em. They lived all around us. Yes ma'm, I'm acquainted with em. Oh, I been through a little bit.
"I started sewin' and weavin' when I was just big enough to reach the treadles. Used to sew for Mrs. Hulburt in
Bolivar County, Mississippi. I remember she started to the Mardi Gras on a boat culled the Mary Bell. It got burned
and she had to turn back. I used to do a heap a sevin'.
"Everythings changed now. People is so treacherous now. Chile, ain't nothin' to this younger generation. Now I'm
tellin' you the truth. They ain't studyin' nothin' good. Sin and corruption all you see now.
"Last man I married was Elder Flagg. He was a preacher in the Baptist church and as good a preacher as I ever
heard. They don't preach the Gospel now.
"Well, I wish I could remember more to tell you, but it's been a long time. I'll be ninety if I live till the 4th of next
May."
Interviewer Mrs. Zillah Cross Peel"
